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Zemo Walden
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:07:00 -
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Problem is when corps specifically target new player corps... that's what happened. Somali Coast Guard BootCamp was specifically targeting new players - not players who are experienced. 10v1 versus new players is always going to give a corp a bad rep... Personally I think those corps that only ever target new player corps are far worse than pirate corps that sit low sec gates. No skill in targeting new player corps constantly - simple as. |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:42:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Zemo Walden wrote:Problem is when corps specifically target new player corps... that's what happened. Somali Coast Guard BootCamp was specifically targeting new players - not players who are experienced. 10v1 versus new players is always going to give a corp a bad rep... Personally I think those corps that only ever target new player corps are far worse than pirate corps that sit low sec gates. No skill in targeting new player corps constantly - simple as. Yes because new players fly T3's and faction/t2 Battleships.
Well when I was in a new player corp Somali Coast Guard started a war against us, we were all new players. Two specific members were tracking me down and gate sitting when I was running level 2 missions in a crap very basic Caracal. They also took out another member of the corp and gate camped him too. I got away from the drone camping which couldn't lock me but then 5 ppl showed up on the gate. So yes there are certain members who are only targeting new players, even new players in basic Cruisers = newbie bashing corp in my understanding. Also went to move my Drake to Jita and had the same 2v1 I was pwning them then all of a sudden 5 more turned up. Seems to be the same two people who have now moved to The Bootcamp corp. The only wars started by you were against new player corps with low tax rates which really shows us all what you are about. |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 17:42:00 -
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Look at the war history, people aren't stupid... Here a couple on the list:
Skull Bearers = New Player corp with low tax rate
Financial Freedom Inc = New Player corp with low tax rate
Pro Synergy = New Player Salvaging corp that don't even do PvP
Miners in Posession = New player mining corp
I could go on all day, the list of previous wars speaks for itself.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:46:00 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:Zemo Walden wrote:which really shows us all what you are about. What? You mean like training NEW PLAYERS to do PVP in hi-sec? Okay then, just so we're clear... Bootcamp is for people new to PVP, and they were plenty of corps that aren't newbies and plenty of victims that were high SP veterans in shiny ships that certainly knew what they were doing. You could take an opportunity to join them / get help / read guides and learn or fight back instead of autopiloting around under war and crying about it. Oh and not once were you ever 10v1 (except whilst getting ganked 18v1 by Pandemic Legion in lowsec). You'd think a corp with that many losses in low sec would know what PVP was. Pro Synergy - 2011 Miners in Possession - 2007 Financial Freedom Inc - 2012 All older and with more members than SCGBC. yeah... total newbies. You conveniently miss out all the MERC corps that wardecced or allied onto target corps too. They killed Booties plenty. Nullsec training corps, Lowsec PVP corps with lots of faction war friends, Booties wardecced them all. Keep poking Kane. See what happens...
Well that's funny because when I was in my Drake I was killing one guy when it was 2v1, then all of a sudden at least 5 came through the gate to help them, only fought back because I had no other option. Not all new players fly around with warp scramblers and anti-scramblers when doing level 2 missions..... Also was not auto-piloting I never auto pilot in eve especially when wars are on. I never targeted anyone either I have the combat logs to prove that the BootCamp IS targeting new players. Not just Battleships as you seem to claim, was taken out in a Caracal 3v1 and a rookie ship 2v1.
Trying to play the whole "we were at war with others" is just dumb too, the only wars from good corps were from those warring you not the other way around.
The low sec kill was while I was in a hauler doing a distribution mission and I don't really care about that I know it was a diff corp all together. |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 18:57:00 -
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The problem is when Corps like this specifically target new players and can't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1. Gate camping out an area to take out a new player cruiser with 2 people is a joke IMO and any corp that does it deserves what comes back on it. |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:12:00 -
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Royd Rage wrote:Zemo Walden wrote:The problem is when Corps like this specifically target new players and can't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1. Gate camping out an area to take out a new player cruiser with 2 people is a joke IMO and any corp that does it deserves what comes back on it. I repeat, most of us are new players as well. Who should we target then, 2003 players? Gate camping is as hard and involves the same tools as avoiding gate camps. P.S: Zemo Walden: July 2011 VS Royd Rage: April 2013 Rise Altol: February 2013 Razer Aideron: January 2013 (and he came at the very very end of the fight) ...
LOL you think that char creation date means anything? I created this character years ago and only just started playing recently with a promotion. So stating dates is plain stupid, people have breaks too from eve dates mean nothing. They don't mean a player is old.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:26:00 -
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It's no problem anyway, just thought that I would point a few things out, when I get back to my old alliance corp and I've trained all my PvP skills (which I didn't even need 2v1 *cough*) the tables will turn.  if you think you can take out 2011 players who have full skills from then - think again. You couldn't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1 vs a 16 day character. |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:55:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Zemo Walden wrote:It's no problem anyway, just thought that I would point a few things out, when I get back to my old alliance corp and I've trained all my PvP skills (which I didn't even need 2v1 *cough*) the tables will turn. if you think you can take out 2011 players who have full skills from then - think again. You couldn't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1 vs a 16 day character. Since your so good and like talking crap in threads. I will mail the CEO of each corp you join... telling them I am coming to say hello.
Go for it,... you don't know who I am, this is a new account but that means nothing to other accounts. The threat was to the noob who could only fight with back-up vs a 16 day account - pretty surprised no-one got your - noob bashing corp bounty - with him in the corp, but still he's not in your corp anymore which is a good thing for you.... I have friends who have been on EVE since 2003 who I LAN with regularly, so your threats mean nothing to me. |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:08:00 -
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Sorry meant people who I've lanned with since 97. But anyway doesn't matter, I don't mind a bit of banter, was pointing out a few things about the other corp that you probably didn't know were going on. :) People stating dates tho on characters is just funny and corp dates, dates mean nothing. The corps I stated are all new player corps most of which don't even PvP which I'm sure everyone here knows already. If you want a challenge war PvP alliances - not noob corps is the whole point I was making here, it looks like some of the BootCamp people think they are pro yet can't even fight pve 16 day accounts 2v1,.  |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:11:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Zemo Walden wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Zemo Walden wrote:It's no problem anyway, just thought that I would point a few things out, when I get back to my old alliance corp and I've trained all my PvP skills (which I didn't even need 2v1 *cough*) the tables will turn. if you think you can take out 2011 players who have full skills from then - think again. You couldn't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1 vs a 16 day character. Since your so good and like talking crap in threads. I will mail the CEO of each corp you join... telling them I am coming to say hello. Go for it,... you don't know who I am, this is a new account but that means nothing to other accounts. The threat was to the noob who could only fight with back-up vs a 16 day account - pretty surprised no-one got your - noob bashing corp bounty - with him in the corp, but still he's not in your corp anymore which is a good thing for you.... I have friends who have been on EVE since '97 who I LAN with regularly, so your threats mean nothing to me. Did not know EVE has been running since 97. Here I though EVE celebrated it's 10th Birthday when it should have been it's 16th? And I did not threaten you... I said I will come and say hello. War is not about fair fights it about killing people and there is no such thing as overkill. Those corps you mentioned... I see alot of t2 kills in there so your assumption that they are newbie corps is incorrect. As a matter of fact. Miners in possions is a wardec corp. Along with that older players will sometimes be alot more carefull about moving about during a war. Leaving muppets like you to die instead of them. It a failing from your corp.
Why don't you just target PvP alliances then if you are so good? The corps you target are for a reason - easy pickings. As soon as big alliances pick up on it who are actually PvP spec and skilled everyone leaves... as seen here no? ;)
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:50:00 -
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Thanks for clearing that up StoneCold, I honestly thought it was the same Corp re-made which bought more speculation to the whole Somali 'BootCamp'  |
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